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slowgo
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May 23, 2007, 17:09:23 pm »
What are the normal sounds that a locker in the rear of a 86 zook should be making? Also what are the normal sounds that should come from a regeared T-case?
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Re: Lock right
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May 23, 2007, 17:21:13 pm »
Hell, I ain't never heard a locker make a "normal" sound. Mine make about every other kinda sound, though.
Mine are quiet going straight.
"click, click, click" and sumtimes "click, click, pop" on turns.
And the occasional "Bang!" most of the way through a hard turn on pavement.
I got one that's quieter, and one that's noisier. A lot depends on the wear inside the diff.
I got a GRS-II tcase and it's pretty quiet, just a mild hum. I've heard other people complain about gear whine, tho.
Not too much info, but it's what I got.
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Skyhiranger
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KC area
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Re: Lock right
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May 23, 2007, 18:15:46 pm »
Quote from: Smuz on May 23, 2007, 17:21:13 pm
Hell, I ain't never heard a locker make a "normal" sound. Mine make about every other kinda sound, though.
Mine are quiet going straight.
"click, click, click" and sumtimes "click, click, pop" on turns.
And the occasional "Bang!" most of the way through a hard turn on pavement.
I got one that's quieter, and one that's noisier. A lot depends on the wear inside the diff.
Yep. I have had the same experience with ones I have ran. The one I had in an 89 sidekick I use to have, would just click, click, click....it never did the loud bang!...it could have been because it was one that came with the replacement side gears (couplers). Now the one in my samurai is a completely different animal, it sometimes clicks, it sometimes does the loud bang!...it is the type where you reuse the stock sidegears.....don't know if that makes the difference, or if it is because they supposedly redesigned them slightly between the time when I had the sidekick and my now current samurai.
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Phoenix
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Re: Lock right
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May 23, 2007, 19:51:11 pm »
I've got Lock-Rites front and rear, and I love them.
The clicks and pops are no big deal. They're really rather predictable. When you turn, the inside wheel is the drive. It wiggles a littles when you change gears, and there's 1/4 to 1/2 a turn play. I can't imagine wheeling without them, unless I want to imagine getting stuck.
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Re: Lock right
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May 23, 2007, 19:58:32 pm »
Quote from: Phoenix on May 23, 2007, 19:51:11 pm
I've got Lock-Rites front and rear, and I love them. I can't imagine wheeling without them, unless I want to imagine getting stuck.
Amen, what he said.
However on a "Trailer Queen", non-daily driver, I prefer to save a little money and Fozzy lock or spool the rear and just use a locker in the front. YMMV.
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Re: Lock right
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May 23, 2007, 20:12:54 pm »
Out here in nowheresville, I have to travel quite a way to get to good places to wheel. I can't afford a tow-rig & trailer. Besides, I'd have to go back the way I came. On the road, the locker saves a lot of tire wear as compared to a spool, and in the long run will save you money.
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Re: Lock right
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May 23, 2007, 20:24:50 pm »
Excellent points.
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Flea
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Re: Lock right
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May 24, 2007, 07:15:16 am »
i have used lockrights in 2 eb's and 1 yeep.
always worked flawlessly in all of em.
i put in a spool in my 9" with the lockrite 44 and i decided thats the combo i will use as long as i could.
currently i am in need of a lockrite for my 85 yota front for 5.29's but my spool and similar gears are already to go (sorta).
so to sum up all this physcobable /
Lockrite good (sometimes noisy)
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slowgo
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Livingston CA
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Re: Lock right
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May 24, 2007, 17:02:10 pm »
My t-case gears make a hum and or a whine is this good?
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Flea
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Re: Lock right
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May 24, 2007, 17:07:07 pm »
does it change in frequency or duration?
stay the same all the time?
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Re: Lock right
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May 24, 2007, 17:33:32 pm »
Quote from: slowgo on May 24, 2007, 17:02:10 pm
My t-case gears make a hum and or a whine is this good?
If you kin still hear the radio, they's prolly Ok.
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slowgo
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Re: Lock right
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Reply #11 on:
May 25, 2007, 08:34:49 am »
IT is the loudest when coasting
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Marshall
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Re: Lock right
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May 26, 2007, 00:45:39 am »
I got groans, moans, pops, bangs, whines in my rig no problem.
Honestly though my 4.9:1 is no louder than stock unless in low range.
I wouldn't worry about it unless you drop the fluid and it's metallic.
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SUZUKIWARRIOR
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wilkes-barre pa
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Re: Lock right
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Reply #13 on:
June 04, 2007, 20:36:29 pm »
i blew 2 lock right out of the back so i went to a miller locker
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Phoenix
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Re: Lock right
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June 04, 2007, 21:32:07 pm »
Quote from: SUZUKIWARRIOR on June 04, 2007, 20:36:29 pm
i blew 2 lock right out of the back so i went to a miller locker
Yeah, was that many moons ago when you had a v6 in your Zuk? Were those in stock axles?
BTW a "Miller Locker" is a
misnomer
pseudonym
that refers to a "welded" dif.
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Flea
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Re: Lock right
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Reply #15 on:
June 05, 2007, 10:10:22 am »
same as lincoln locked i believe!
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Re: Lock right
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Reply #16 on:
June 05, 2007, 11:17:53 am »
Quote from: Flea on June 05, 2007, 10:10:22 am
same as lincoln locked i believe!
Yeah, it depends which brand of welder that you have.
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Jr8Fan
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Re: Lock right
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June 05, 2007, 15:22:12 pm »
Quote from: Phoenix on June 05, 2007, 11:17:53 am
Quote from: Flea on June 05, 2007, 10:10:22 am
same as lincoln locked i believe!
Yeah, it depends which brand of welder that you have.
I havd a Scott welder!! He is good
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hereticzuk
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El Paso Texas
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Re: Lock right
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Reply #18 on:
July 02, 2007, 20:39:28 pm »
all i know is that all those clicks and whining noises that my Samurai makes, usually scare the crap out
of all the heep and hummer owners i pull up next to on the street.they know whats up
. i daily drive my rig and some times drive it as far as 300 miles 0ne direction on some excursions and i wouldn't have it any other way.
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Re: Lock right
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July 02, 2007, 20:53:55 pm »
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WVhillbilly
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WV
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Re: Lock right
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September 08, 2007, 20:00:32 pm »
I have a front third with a lock rite installed on the way. Have a rear lock rite on the bench, can't find good instructions on how to install it. I know everyone says it's easy, but a visual aid would be great.
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Re: Lock right
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September 10, 2007, 07:00:27 am »
Quote from: slowgo on May 24, 2007, 17:02:10 pm
My t-case gears make a hum and or a whine is this good?
I had an early set of Petroworks welded gears and they made a nice hum. Then I had another case with Trail-tough billet gears and they made alot less noise. They may have done some re work when they made the billet gears to quiet them down.
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Re: Lock right
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Reply #22 on:
September 10, 2007, 08:10:51 am »
Quote from: WVhillbilly on September 08, 2007, 20:00:32 pm
I have a front third with a lock rite installed on the way. Have a rear lock rite on the bench, can't find good instructions on how to install it. I know everyone says it's easy, but a visual aid would be great.
I got a coupla install manuals. PM me yer address, if ya wanna, and I'll mail ya one,
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WVhillbilly
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Re: Lock right
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Reply #23 on:
October 18, 2007, 19:03:53 pm »
Got those install instructions a couple weeks ago
many thanks. I was away from home for over 4 weeks this time and have lots to take care of now. Going to try and get my lockers in sometime in the next few weeks, hopefully before heavy snow and hunting season.
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redbeard
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Re: Lock right
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October 18, 2007, 19:12:33 pm »
I realy like my lockrites, I have blown 2 front ones, and due to lack of experience on my part I was running it on a 2 pin carrier, now have a rear carrier up front and the new locker is holding fine, the rear locker went to popping under hard downhills last week while letting the engine hold. probably just the pins, but I will put a minispool in there.
I like the pops and clicks, that lets me know it is working
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WVhillbilly
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WV
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Re: Lock right
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Reply #25 on:
October 18, 2007, 19:15:55 pm »
If I have a problem with the rear locker I will probably just put a spool in it's place. Until then I'll run it.
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Flea
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Re: Lock right
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Reply #26 on:
October 18, 2007, 19:17:39 pm »
do yours lurch?
ive never had em in a sami but when i drove around the trails with phoenix his lurched all over the place like we were gonna go off the road every time he shifts.
he says its always done it but ive yet to hear anyone else mention it.
my dana44 in my last eb had a lockrite with 4.11's and it didnt act like that at all.
the 10 bolt in my ramcharger was welded and it sorta lurched like that but not death defying.
must be a zuki thing?
my axles are yotas so i dont know what a locked sami axle is like.
should be similar shouldnt it?
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Flea
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Re: Lock right
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October 18, 2007, 19:20:04 pm »
wvh just weld it then go spool with new stuff?
im a big spool believer but im using all new gears and axles
if i was just looking to do it with used stuff id weld it for sure.
no more chance of axle breakage i think
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Flea
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Re: Lock right
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Reply #28 on:
October 18, 2007, 19:21:24 pm »
Quote from: Phoenix on June 04, 2007, 21:32:07 pm
Quote from: SUZUKIWARRIOR on June 04, 2007, 20:36:29 pm
i blew 2 lock right out of the back so i went to a miller locker
Yeah, was that many moons ago when you had a v6 in your Zuk? Were those in stock axles?
BTW a "Miller Locker" is a
misnomer
pseudonym
that refers to a "welded" dif.
btw a miller locker and a lincoln locker and a scott locker are terms used by seasoned and experienced mechanics and wheelers all over the world and are common nomenclature for the chunk after its been welded.
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WVhillbilly
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WV
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Re: Lock right
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Reply #29 on:
October 18, 2007, 19:34:03 pm »
Already have the lock-rites tho. The front one is already in a third, the rear needs put in. This thing will see some road miles too otherwise I would just spool it. Roads are pretty curvy here and don't really want the rear locked 100%. Have had spools in street cars here and had broken parts and the rear trying to pass the front in the rain.
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redbeard
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Dutton AR
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Re: Lock right
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Reply #30 on:
October 18, 2007, 19:39:03 pm »
that just makes for a more entertaining ride
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