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Crazyatvn
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« on: July 21, 2007, 18:03:44 pm »

I went wheeling the yesterday and I think something is starting to break in the front. It will make a popping noise when under a load sometimes.

So here are some options

1) rebuild the axle I got (I never did one before) and run it
2) buy my buddies stock axle and run SPOA or maybe YJ
3) I can get a full toyota truck for $400 and go yota axles with spoa with stock springs
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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2007, 18:21:46 pm »

option 3 !!!!!!!

sounds like you are about ready to take on a challenge !!!!

anyone else have some advice for a local wheeler?
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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2007, 18:36:59 pm »

How well will stock axles hold up to 31's max 33's doing trails and rocks.
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« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2007, 21:22:13 pm »

With a stock engine they hold up very well (your mileage may vary).  Do you have a front locker?
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« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2007, 21:31:56 pm »

stock motor no lockers (yet)......I want yj, lockers front and rear, 6.5, 31-33" tires, maybe gears.
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« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2007, 21:40:57 pm »

my green zuk im running 33's on stock axles with 6.5 to 1, stock efi 1.3 im locked front and rear and i had problems with the front birfs,so i got birf rings and i wheel pretty hard and they have held up for just over a yr now. you could go either way and should be ok.
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« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2007, 21:45:48 pm »

I would rather stay stock axled I want a cage bad.  If I get yota's money will be slim.  I tend to go slower over obsticles than my buddy.  I don't like to hop or hit objects to hard I know it is bad on the axles and other stuff.

nwodedispu: What kind of lockers you running?
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« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2007, 08:53:21 am »

I want a cage bad. 

got access to welder ??

save some $$   and do your own.

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« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2007, 12:58:10 pm »

i have richmond lock rite lockers front and rear. Peace

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« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2007, 14:31:34 pm »

 Plus One Sign It's the way to go...ANYWHERE!
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« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2007, 15:58:58 pm »

I want a cage bad. 

got access to welder ??

save some $$   and do your own.



Yeah I have a welder and a pipe bender but I heard my pipe bender will not bend tube right. 
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« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2007, 16:09:12 pm »

need a different die?

man  it sure feels good to figure it out and do something youve never done before.  my cage is all me and a little help.

although now that ive got better im going to clean up some bad welds.

hint on bending

check everything 46 times before you do it then stop and check once more.
in ither words dont hurry.

im telling you from expierence.
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« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2007, 16:16:35 pm »

need a different die?

man  it sure feels good to figure it out and do something youve never done before.  my cage is all me and a little help.

although now that ive got better im going to clean up some bad welds.

hint on bending

check everything 46 times before you do it then stop and check once more.
in ither words dont hurry.

im telling you from expierence.

I would love to do I already drew out what I want and figured out a way that I would not have to bend any angles more than 45 deg.  But my bender is a cheap harbor freight pipe bender not a tube bender.  I heard that it is only for bending pipe not tube and will kink the tubing.  If I had a peice of tube I might try it but I got to find a piece of 1.5" DOM or ERW to try it.
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« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2007, 16:42:25 pm »

i see
i wonder if there is any way to remedy that issue. maybe sleeving it with something  or lots of little bends.?

not sure  i learned to bend 20 years ago with a conduit bender   and that didnt help bending my 1.75.

was similar marking the bends but i obviously didnt remember well enough.  next time im at the shop ill have to take a pic of my scrap pile (um   almost another cage  Fuming  )
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« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2007, 16:43:01 pm »

But my bender is a cheap harbor freight pipe bender not a tube bender.  I heard that it is only for bending pipe not tube and will kink the tubing.
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« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2007, 18:11:22 pm »

I wonder if I heat the tube if it will bend ok?Huh?Huh?
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« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2007, 18:40:14 pm »

I wonder if I heat the tube if it will bend ok?Huh?Huh?
I doubt it.  To minimize the kink, pack it with sand.
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« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2007, 19:12:15 pm »

I wonder if I heat the tube if it will bend ok?Huh?Huh?
I doubt it.  To minimize the kink, pack it with sand.


That might be do able so weld end shut pack with sand weld other end shut bend away? 

Here is my rough idea on my cage.
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« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2007, 13:04:10 pm »

i have a harbor frieght bender and nothing i tried would work for making good angles. i took my pipe to a small local gas station and they let me bend the pieces myself for a fee of course. i have been told not to use an exhaust bender cause it pushes in on the corners but i had no other opions available to me. so anyway i bent all the pieces and left the tails a little long. then when i got home i fit all the pieces and welded them together. all the time a little worried about using an exhaust bender. by now my zuk has been rolled mutiple times and shows no signs of a problem anywhere. i have gussets in the corners and it isn't damaged so i am sold. as long as it's got good pipe, good welds, and is done well i would go for it again.
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« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2007, 00:46:13 am »



Rear Cage, Rock Sliders, Light Bar and doors courtesy of my skills and Harbor Freight Wire Feed Welder, Pipe bender, Pipe notcher and Cut off saw.

Its all made from Schedule 40 pipe, not as heavy as you would think and tougher than hell   Beer Chug Driving (Pic was before doors were completed)
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« Reply #20 on: August 01, 2007, 17:54:31 pm »

I plan on it but with my welder and bender!

here  are the rock rails I made for my old zuk
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« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2007, 17:58:41 pm »

Looks great  Beer Chug

It's amazing what one can do with a little money and a lot of determination  Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah
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