Anyone been to Kansas Rocks?  Whats it like compared to Tuttle Creek? 

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4-22   fort scott

My 2c - KR has more tight turns in the woods, not really any mud and no big rock shelves like tuttle.  i really like KR, seems like there are more trails for smaller 4x4s, tuttle seems geared more for bigger tires.  tuttle is bigger though, you can pretty much hit every trail at KR in a good day.

also, i think i might try to make this, sounds like fun if i can get the g/f too.
otherwise i am ganna try for the feb 23rd one.

I haven't been to Tuttle, and only been to KSRocks once.  But I had a lot of fun at KSRocks. 
True, you can hit most every trail in one day, but a lot of them are fun to hit more than once, or run the trail backwards (some are easy one direction, but a lot harder the opposite direction). 
Most trails, even several of the "black" ones are fairly easy to navigate and run if it is dry, and you have a smaller rig with at least a rear locker (my samurai has a rear locker and 31" MTs).  A few of the trails (or sections of the trails) are challenging for even a "built" rig.  There are some of the trails that I did not even attempt....beyond me and my rig's capabilities.....or maybe I was scared.
It has a lot more rock than the areas I am use to running (northern missouri).  It was very dry the time I was there....a little wetter (or rainy), and it would make several of the "easy" trails challenging (especially the ones with more dirt (clay) than rock).
I would definitely like to go back, at some point.....hopefully I can make it on the 20th.

Thanks for the input, I can't wait to go and check it out.  I am going to try to video some of the day.  I have rigged up a fitting on the windshield bracket to mount my MiniDV video recorder so I can do some of my own armchair wheeling.  Maybe I'll post a pic or two.

right on man,  thats a great idea,  can you give me a little details on the mount?  i might try it for jens Heep.


and kevin, i didnt know you were gonna try and make it !  i really hope so cause most of the guys we are going with have heeps and the like.

brett

let me know if you are bringing your girls ( daughtrer and GF )

bruklyn ( my daughter ) is coming,

I thought I mentioned it to you.....I said something about getting the tank from you, if I can make it.  Then again, maybe I just thought I mentioned it to you.
Either way, maybe I'll see you there.  I am going to talk to my bro this weekend and try to convince him to bring his Heep down (so I'll have my own personal Heep to point and laugh at....actually, I'm not really that mean......usually ).

yeah you mentioned your bro,  wasnt sure about you,  but sounds like you arent sure about yourself either !!!!   

tank is on list       or id forget it AGAIN !


it even has 4 little peices of the flea still attached !!!   

well Kayliss will be at her moms, but next year she will be going with me on pretty much every run.  she was bummed that she couldnt see you guys again and meet your daughter when i told her tonight what i was doing.  as for g/f... still working on that

g/f does not want to camp out.  thinks it will be to cold.  i want to, i really like that place about 2 miles west on 54.  (plus i have a 0deg sleeping bag ) what is that red ram motel like?  looked a bit odd.....
what is everyone else doing?

Bueller, Bueller, anyone.....
my daughter and i are camping at lake francis, and i got a big pot o'chili to whom ever walks over

We are planning on just camping at the park.

t   
im working on a very informal run at randolph next month,  maybe then.   you guys can stay at our place if you come down.

we are gonna look at francis cause i fdont want to ruin everyones peaceful camping with my generator. 

just really dont know yet  but most likely gonna camp at ksrocks.

sorry about the duplicated (sorta) pm   didnt catch this one.

schaan

we are leaving friday morning.

taking it slow and easy on this one as we all argue when papa's in a hurry 

looking good as far as      very litle chance.

ive got an extra outlet on the generator if you need it kevin


if you want to use it youll need at least 100'  of cord as im using 200'  so i wont hear it.

Thanks for the offer......but I don't think I'll need any electricity.  My samurai runs on gas (doesn't need to be recharged), I don't use a curling iron (hair is too short),  I'm not bringing the stove (too big and heavy), and the tent doesn't have any electrical outlets.

But I'll check with my brother to make sure he doesn't need electricity for his toy Heep.

you know if i didnt  like your no nonsense.   dont take any  bullshit  attitude...........


course   smartasses  like you are the ones i trust.   

see ya sat.


 



my wife and kids want heat and light  and i told them no hotel as im broke after paying trademark and filing fees and buying the rest of fleas parts.

Yeah, hopefully it won't be too cool.  And I plan on bringing a flashlight or two.

a couple big candles work great in smaller tents.


im only using the generator if its to cold (electric heaters)  or to hot  ( fans )
hotplate and misc goodies

plus  i just got this one and its quieter and bigger than the last one.

gotta try it out

well we should be setting up tent at the lake around 7, all still welcome to some chili.  i am a weenie, i like the showers after a days (and night) run, see ya all sat!!

 thanks brett.

for taking a shower !!!!!

im gonna try out my new portable shower,   Heep heats the water.    we'll see.

even bringing a pseudo shower curtain.

but francis looks like a real nice place and we may have to stop and try the fishing,  looks like they keep overstocked !!!!

fish cleaning station !!!!!!!!

theres a hot dog feed sat night that i might  try some of that chili with.

possibly 2 more sami's  from springfield   chip  ( red one that rockgenious rode in at the 1st krrp run)  and a buddy.

Thanks for bringing a shower curtain.....NO ONE needs to see that!!!

Wasn't Chip the one with the red samurai and exo....I thought he was from the St. L. area?

I see according to their website that regular tent camping is $8 per night.  But they mention something about special pricing, if you are visiting KRRP.  How much is the "special pricing", for camping?

exnay  on the generator      we are gonna rough it.    to much weight  and the damn kids wanted to bring a tv.

not happening.


see ya there

What the hell was up with the wind???   I have a dome tent that is 6 foot tall in the center and the wind was blowing it hard enough the sides were laying down enough to beat me in the face.....yeah, real fun night to try to sleep in a F'n tent.

Nice to see all you guys though.......oh wait, Flea and 90Stomper were the only two that made it....... was up with the rest of you guys that were going to make it?

Damn, there were a lot of Heeps there.  For me being the only Samurai in the park, all the Heeps pretty much stayed away from me.......I guess they didn't want to get spanked by a "little" samurai .....although I did have this gray Heep (it's a '57, Flea) that kept following me around all weekend.....he stayed with me pretty good.....so I let him lead for awhile.....I followed him everywhere he went.

I think we got some decent video.....but I don't know if I can get it posted.....I don't have a high-speed connection and I don't think my brother knows how to get the video online.

Hey, Flea......too bad you weren't there this afternoon..... you know those 2 big cement culverts in the "play area" (the 5 or 6 foot ones, not the 2 foot ones)........I was actually able to get my front tires up and over the top of the first one (it was kinda interesting...I had to hit it at an angle and step one tire at a time up onto the side of the culvert....otherwise, either my winch or spring ends/shackles would hit the culvert).....but unfortunately, I couldn't get my back tires to bite enough to get me up on top (I was bottoming out hard on the frame)......but it was close....oh well, maybe next time.

Oh, and I passed Smuz and his boy (they were coming back from Disney, I assume) on my way back to KC......almost ran Smuz off the road ......sorry about that Smuz, I'd been around Heeps all weekend and their lack of driving skills must have rubbed off on me.

we had a great time   better than usual   other than  not all the  zuk's showed up.  but the ones that did were awesome !!!!!!

btw   ive been told that 75  highway  south from topeka is the best way to get to Ks Rocks.   

  absolutley 100% B.S.   

took us 2:58  to get there   going 75 south to 54 east.

took us 2:33 coming back 69 North to 10 backside of lawerence. 
smooth roads  4 lane   etc.  etc.

that is omitting stops

even to disney taking 75  hwy  is a joke.

all i had to do was mapquest it  and i would have had an intelligent answer.


still cant believe i got suckered into that route the last two times.

beggars cant be choosers i guess.

I'll have to check out the video (probably be a week or two, since it's my bro's camera).  If it's worth posting, I'll have him edit it and send you a copy.

Yeah, I didn't attempt the small culverts yesterday......I squared up to them and smacked the ends of the leaf springs, so I backed off......didn't want to risk Fing anything up, with another day of wheelin' ahead of me.
But at the end of the day today.....I thought "what the hell" I'll try the BIG ones.  Like I said, didn't do so well.....but it was fun trying.....I got to burn some tread off the tires....that's always fun, right?

Thass OK, I saw ya coming, so I wuz ready for ya. My driving skills were honed razor sharp from trying to keep from running over all them pesky 4 wheel ATV's at Disney. Damned Gnats, they got no sense at all.

yeaah  smuz,  its really been a problem the last few times ive been down there.

there is a bright side  though.  our zuks go where they can and there are miles of new trails on the other side of russ's  that werent there before.

i got pretty damned lost over there on laborday run about midnight or so,  gotta a little spooky !!!!   love getting scared,  thats why i do this.    just wish i could hit the reset button ( maxs wayside breakfast quote)  so it would be easier to get the thrills.

gotta get the flea done so i can scare myself proper.


bought (gave up making ) engine mounts and fox nitro shocks this am at 4x4land

wait till you see how im gonna mount my 16" travel shocks !!!!

    uhh im not to sure i wanna see you mount your shocks   

now that you mention it   guess i better close my eyes   or  grin and bear it !!!!